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Knute1
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Early Gun Gripe

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Early ideas on making the Krag, er I mean 1892 magazine rifle, better.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Jo ... frontcover

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Thanks Knute, Lt. Haines 1895 article is quite interesting.

He must have been involved in official testing, connected with development of the cavalry carbine.

His observation on the corrosiveness of the early .30 caliber ammunition is noteworthy.

Lt. Haines was 'in the know' about changes that would eventually be made to the Magazine Cut-Off Lever, Muzzle-Crown, Handguard, and the Sectional Cleaning Rod with Butt Storage.

As you note, he was very sensitive about the 'correct official name' being applied to our Service Arm!

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Here is a follow-up article by the same Lt. Haines. I believe I posted this a while back, but not the first article above. Note he called it the 1895 Carbine. In 1903 he was a Captain in the 11th Cavalry and was an aide-de-camp for Major General James Wade, Division Commander in the Philippines.

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Lt. John Taylor Haines, U.S. Cavalry, was on Ordnance Duty at Springfield Armory from October 1st, 1894, to October 1st, 1895.

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Well.....some good info on a man tied to the Krag and whose history is mostly lost. Until now.

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Great info gents

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More "constructive criticism" of the new carbine, dealing mainly with target practice, from an 1898 "Journal of the Military Service Institution".

Page 247 has an article from Captain Ellis. Starting on page 651 are comments on this article.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Jo ... frontcover

For those that are looking for more in depth period information, the following is from "Firing Regulations For Small Arms For The United Stated Army", also published in 1898.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Fi ... frontcover

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Within five years, Rear- Sights, Sling-Use, and even the Service Cap, would be totally changed.

Maybe some of the critics were heard.
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