Qualifying With Krag Vs. 1903 Springfield

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Knute1
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Qualifying With Krag Vs. 1903 Springfield

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The U.S. Army had a "handicap" time to qualify (rapid fire) with an 1898 Krag Jorgensen in place of the venerable 1903 Springfield (from a 1917 guide). Shown in the table from the following link.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Co ... frontcover

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Interesting! I've done rapids with both the "Drop-In" method and using my (Parashooter designed) Krag Charger. 10 accurate shots in 80 seconds is possible with both methods... although "Dropping" the rounds in does require a bit of agility, practice, and (most importantly) the ability to remain calm under pressure! Using the charger can, as anyone who has seen me shoot at Perry can attest, result in rapid times every bit on par with any other vintage bolt action rifle!

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"Psteinmayer", I was hoping you would weigh in on this as I have seen some of your past videos and that you would have some insight on these numbers. I am assuming that this guide had developed the Krag times without the use of a charger.

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As I've said before, if you want to see some REALLY fast Krag reloading, look up "stangskyting" on YouTube. It's practically a blur, and they shoot with the middle finger - hand never comes off the bolt except to slap in a fresh charger.

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Dick Hosmer wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:50 pm As I've said before, if you want to see some REALLY fast Krag reloading, look up "stangskyting" on YouTube. It's practically a blur, and they shoot with the middle finger - hand never comes off the bolt except to slap in a fresh charger.
I’ve seen the technique with the Enfield also.

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"The Mad Minute" as utilized by Kitchener's Contemptibles at Mons during WW1, to stem the German advance.

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Man that's FAST!!! Those reload cartridge boxes (Hurtiglader) does anyone make replicas of them, no doubt originals ultra rare going for a King's ransom, if you can find one. Should mention that the M1903 Springfield also had a extended fixed magazine making it a 10 shot load. It was experimental and scrubbed cause shooting on the ground the fixed mag would get in the way. Anyway they do make exact replicas for under $50. Fitting them takes a small file to fit them so they snap in place of the bottom rifle plate which is removed. I have one, easy install doesn't damage the rifle. The photo below is it on mine.

The Link: stangskyting on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ycG87H1b8
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I was totally unaware of the 10-shot 1903 mod. They did make the "stripped-for-air-service" model with a much larger mag - which was not a problem when used in an aeroplane.

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If anyone is interested this is where I got it the cheapest, Numrich Gun Parts. They also have a few Krag parts too. Like I said it may need some filing to fit and stay in place. Sarco also sells it for much more.

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/884730

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