My Shooter

[butlersrangers]

173rdAbn: Does your Redfield sight look anything like the attached picture? Chuck

[173rdAbn]

No sir, not at all. I tried to look it up for a reference, but couldn't find it. It has no adjustment knobs, only screws. No provision for attaching other than d/t, and that ain't gonna happen.

[butlersrangers]

173rdAbn: I would send the drill and tap sight back to Numrich for a refund if not as advertised. Check eBay (krag) and gunbroker (krag); 'no drill' Redfield and Pacific sights show up often. Both require that the cutoff lever be removed. The Pacific seems to require that the stock be notched to lower the slide to its lowest positions. I have seen pictures of a Pacific sight re-assembled with the peep underneath the horizontal part of the slide. This may eliminate the need to remove any wood. (I think the peep disk had a 'flat' filed on it to clear the bolt). The Redfield 'no drill' sights cause a roughness in the cartridge feed, since they do not fill the hole occupied by the cut-off shaft. Later Redfield instructions recommended inserting a cut-off shaft with the lever sawn off. A piece of plastic, nylon, brass or steel rod, shaped like an original cut-off shaft, should work just as well. The "non-micrometer" versions of the Pacific and Redfield sights allow easier bolt removal. The 'lock screw' can be loosened and the slide quickly raised to clear the bolt for removal. There is a vertical set-screw that allows an easy return to the sighted-in position. The micrometer versions of both makes require alot of turns of the Vertical Knob to free the slide from the base, for bolt removal. Chuck

[173rdAbn]

Thanks for the information..I'll keep it for reference when I end up with the right one.
John Butler

[kragluver]

Concur with what the previous poster stated. I watched Gunbroker for about 6 months before a Redfield finally showed up. They really are NICE sights. Mine is the target sight. My only complaint is that you have to dismount the sight every time to remove the bolt. I've heard before that Redfield bought out the Pacific sight company and then started selling their version of the Pacific - hence the sights are very similar.

[butlersrangers]

kragluver: Yes, the downside of the micrometer versions of both the Redfield (#70K) and the Pacific (K2) sights is that there is no quick release to remove the slide from its base. It is very tedious to rotate the vertical adjustment knob until its threads are fully clear of the base or the slide is at least high enough to remove the rifle bolt. By the way, the Redfield and Pacific sights are entirely different. The "Western Gunsight Company" was started by Redfield in 1909. In the late 1920's Redfield renamed his company due to objections from the Western Cartridge Company. Western and Redfield sights are identical. This is probably what you were thinking about; not a company purchase but a name change.

[173rdAbn]

Good Grief!....OK, so which would be the preferred sight..Redfield or Pacific? Or is there a preferred one? Seems no matter which one is chosen, the most problematic area is bolt removal. Frankly, bolt removal for me is about once per year, if that. The Pacific looks infinity simpler for adjustment, but consider installation, removal (if ever), and stamina, who's the winner??

[JimmyK]

There are two versions of the Pacific sighta target model and a hunting model. Neither require any wood removal, only the removal of the cut-off. The target version is a little bulkier and is adjusted via knobs. The hunting version has the exact same "frame" but is adjusted to zero via screws. The hunting sight is thus just a stripped-down model.

I've a Pacific rear sight on a 24" barreled Krag with a 1905 type front sight as used on a 1903 Springfield. It's about the same height as most Krag front sights so it seems that inverting the peep would be an unusual modification. Maybe the guy that did that modification is the same fellow that keeps reinstalling original barrel mounted Krag rear sights backwards.

[Old Soldier]

For that sight try leeshop@starband.net. He has such stuff. He is mostly a Winchester guy, but has much good stuff.

[butlersrangers]

I like the Pacific K1 sight. It is compact and light. When you remove the 'coin-slotted' side lock screw, the slide can be pulled off the base (to clear the way for bolt removal). The slide is easily returned to its sighted in position. The elevation set-screw shaft is smooth and not threaded into the sight base. The K2 target version is a hassle to remove from its base, since it threads into the base. Both Pacific sights, (as manufactured), require notching the stock to have a full range of adjustment. I would not use these sights on an unspoiled Krag stock. The way the Pacific sights fill the magazine cut-off opening is a definite plus.