what get stored in the butt stock

U.S. Military Krags
Post Reply
fourbore
Posts: 23
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:48 pm

what get stored in the butt stock

Post by fourbore »

I got an oil from eBay that is similar in size to the M1 carbine oiler. I assume this stores inside the butt stock. There is a lot more room. I see some sellers offer a sectional cleaning rod with the same oiler. What else goes in there? The cleaning rod? My gun was made in 1902, if that matters.

I expected to see a makers mark on the oiler cap. It looks old, but; is unmarked. Is that correct? The seller guarantees real and if all is right, I would go back to him for what else I need. Calls himself Gandpa's Gun Parts.

Whig
Posts: 2006
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:53 am

Re: what get stored in the butt stock

Post by Whig »

Granpa's Gun Parts is the best place to get what you need from an honest supplier. His father sold Krag and Springfield parts before him and he, somehow, still has parts to sell. If he says it's original, it is. I have bought from him before. There are some reproduction oilers and cleaning rods out there as you suspected.

The oiler is usually unmarked. The butt place holds the oiler, which is slid in first into the slight cut out recess towards the curved side of the butt, then the three part cleaning rod pieces fit neatly into the three holes deep in the butt which you can see if you shine a flashlight into the butt compartment.

So, you have it correct. The earliest Krag, M1892, did not have a butt compartment and held a full length ram rod (cleaning rod) under the barrel. It had no oiler that fit into the rifle anywhere.

Now you need the cleaning rod set. The full set of cleaning rods and oiler usually cost around $50. (There are two extension segments to the three cleaning rods and one upper segment that has the patch slot. make sure you are getting the correct pieces if you buy them.)Image

h8pvmnt
Posts: 52
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:20 pm

Re: what get stored in the butt stock

Post by h8pvmnt »

The oiler, and multi piece(3) cleaning rods store in the buttstock of the Krag Rifle and Carbine. There are pre-drilled holes for each section of the rod and the oiler. The oilers i have seen are unmarked and have a brush inside.
Mike W.

Whig
Posts: 2006
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:53 am

Re: what get stored in the butt stock

Post by Whig »

The correct oiler may have a point on the stem connected to the unscrewed cap - not really a "brush".Image

fourbore
Posts: 23
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:48 pm

Re: what get stored in the butt stock

Post by fourbore »

Thank you all for the help. I ordered the 3 piece rod.

User avatar
psteinmayer
Posts: 2692
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:31 am

Re: what get stored in the butt stock

Post by psteinmayer »

A helpful tidbit: Once you get your cleaning rods, and load up your butt trap, stuff some cleaning patches in there before you close the trap. This will keep everything nice and tight and prevent things from rattling around!

fourbore
Posts: 23
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:48 pm

Re: what get stored in the butt stock

Post by fourbore »

Yes indeed. I have done that with other rifles.

User avatar
butlersrangers
Posts: 9908
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:35 pm
Location: Below the Bridge, Michigan

Re: what get stored in the butt stock

Post by butlersrangers »

When assembled, the three rod sections are too short to clean the 30" Krag rifle barrel.

In the old days, soldiers would 'pair up' and combine four sections, in order to clean their Krags in the field.

Reportedly, carbines only carried two rod sections, that were slightly heavier than the rifle version.

fourbore
Posts: 23
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:48 pm

Re: what get stored in the butt stock

Post by fourbore »

That is good to know. I have modern one piece rods, but; I most likely would have had another doubt if, or when, I found the 3 sections came up short. My Siamese Mauser has one short segment and the story there is the same. Soldiers would share rod sections.


Post Reply