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Interesting peep over on DoubleGunShop boards
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A Rice sight on steroids!!!!
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butlersrangers
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That is the most complicated 'simple' Krag sight, that I have ever seen.
I have never seen this item before. Nor do I recognize any origin or parts from another sight 'family'.
The 'Safety-Lever' is not a standard Springfield Armory 'Safety'. Part of this sight's retention may be a screw, that goes through the early 'grooved' Bolt-Collar and also retains the shaft of the Safety.
The double-screw "L"-shaped side-plates, appear to clamp the extractor, as a forward anchor point.
A mighty curious sight that was skillfully made!
The main body looks like it could have been machined from a Luger frame.
I have never seen this item before. Nor do I recognize any origin or parts from another sight 'family'.
The 'Safety-Lever' is not a standard Springfield Armory 'Safety'. Part of this sight's retention may be a screw, that goes through the early 'grooved' Bolt-Collar and also retains the shaft of the Safety.
The double-screw "L"-shaped side-plates, appear to clamp the extractor, as a forward anchor point.
A mighty curious sight that was skillfully made!
The main body looks like it could have been machined from a Luger frame.
Re: Interesting peep over on DoubleGunShop boards
A lot of time, thought, and skill went into making that sight.
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butlersrangers
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Ned nailed it. In spite of all the work that went into this sight, it is not much more sophisticated than the Leroy Rice sheet metal sights.
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Quality carftsmanship!
You guys sure FredC didn't have something to do with it???
You guys sure FredC didn't have something to do with it???
Re: Interesting peep over on DoubleGunShop boards
Quality carftsmanship!
You guys sure FredC didn't have something to do with it???
Was not me. Some portions appear well made. I can not figure out what all the screws do. From the photos, I have no idea how the elevation is adjusted. Is the windage adjusted by loosening the screw on one side and tightening the opposite? Not a bad system, I did the same on this laser sight on my son's 45/70. A lot better laser sights can be had today, not so when I made this one from a pocket laser pointer.
You guys sure FredC didn't have something to do with it???
Was not me. Some portions appear well made. I can not figure out what all the screws do. From the photos, I have no idea how the elevation is adjusted. Is the windage adjusted by loosening the screw on one side and tightening the opposite? Not a bad system, I did the same on this laser sight on my son's 45/70. A lot better laser sights can be had today, not so when I made this one from a pocket laser pointer.
Re: Interesting peep over on DoubleGunShop boards
My best guess for elevation is the peep is mounted to/integral with a leaf spring and the large knob has a cam or stepped surfaces under said spring. The remainder is something of a mystery. I'd love to see it in person.
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Hoot, that could be as there is a locknut on the opposite side to hold the set elevation? The 2 screws on each side on the forward part are something of a mystery also. A lot going on there.
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butlersrangers
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Re: Interesting peep over on DoubleGunShop boards
FWIW - My take on this overly complex sight-arrangement. (Sights fascinate me).
Picture #1: A 'modernized' early bolt collar, that Springfield updated to take the later type of safety-lever was used.
However, our "Tinker-Gunsmith" reopened the 'filled' cross-pin hole. He used an early 'pinned' Safety-Lever.
The Safety-Lever and rear of the 'Peep'-Sight are retained by a cross-screw.
Picture #2: The 'Peep' is a hole through the short leg of an "L" shaped spring. The spring is retained at the front by a large headed screw, which also allows it to pivot, sideways.
Windage is adjusted and locked by two opposing machine screws (red arrows).
Elevation is controlled by a numbered Knob. The shank of the knob may have four flats of varying heights (green arrows). The shank is retained on the right side of the sight by a 'slotted-washer/nut' and maybe a hidden pin.
Picture #3: The sight is held in place on the bolt by a cross-screw through the Bolt-Sleeve and by two side-plates that clamp the Krag Extractor. (Anchor-Screws marked with purple arrows).
BTW - This begs the question ... did this Sight require partial disassembly in order to remove the Krag's Bolt?
Picture #1: A 'modernized' early bolt collar, that Springfield updated to take the later type of safety-lever was used.
However, our "Tinker-Gunsmith" reopened the 'filled' cross-pin hole. He used an early 'pinned' Safety-Lever.
The Safety-Lever and rear of the 'Peep'-Sight are retained by a cross-screw.
Picture #2: The 'Peep' is a hole through the short leg of an "L" shaped spring. The spring is retained at the front by a large headed screw, which also allows it to pivot, sideways.
Windage is adjusted and locked by two opposing machine screws (red arrows).
Elevation is controlled by a numbered Knob. The shank of the knob may have four flats of varying heights (green arrows). The shank is retained on the right side of the sight by a 'slotted-washer/nut' and maybe a hidden pin.
Picture #3: The sight is held in place on the bolt by a cross-screw through the Bolt-Sleeve and by two side-plates that clamp the Krag Extractor. (Anchor-Screws marked with purple arrows).
BTW - This begs the question ... did this Sight require partial disassembly in order to remove the Krag's Bolt?