.30-40 Krag 1901 Sight Issue

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carbon outlaw
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this is old data although its what they used in the 30s and 60s ... I like IMR 4065 although I tried h380 and found it worked very well also ...ImageImageImage

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'Parashooter' - Thanks for the interesting insight on reduced 'jacketed bullet loads'.

'Carbon Outlaw' Couple of typos:

"4065" propellant

Lyman Manual page has 180 grain jacketed bullet going 3,132 fps with 38 grains of IMR-4895.

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good catch ... my lyman 48th edition has IMR-4895 38 grains 180 gr. bullet at 2172 ... you know I have never tried Varget power in my 30-40 ... I have found this power to be very accurate in some of my other calibers ...Image

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Though it may have been a typo on carbon outlaw's post, there was a 4065! Scot Powder, it was pretty good stuff! Same burn rate as 4064. It supposedly had a lower burning temperature, used guncotton instead of nitrocellulose I think. Last I bought came from an old dealer's odds and ends shelf, 20 or more years ago.

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Just a note on the Lyman's reloading manual. The loads with the dark text are were ones that had the lowest spread on velocities. Therefore potentially the most accurate.
The one with 36 grains of Varget with the 180 grain bullet might be a winner in a carbine length Krag. I would expect less muzzle flash and noise with the short barrel.

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I'm planning on revisiting my loads over the winter. My intention is to try to move to H4895 with the 220 gr RN Hornady bullet. It would end the expulsion of unburnt powder from the muzzle (as with IMR-4350), while hopefully tightening up my groups a little. I'd like to pare down the types of powder I keep on hand, and I use H4895 in several other rounds.

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But, Paul, it's always so exciting and comforting to see that huge fireball blast from the muzzle of the firearm when you are using a slower burning powder.

Just makes you tingle inside, doesn't it??

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let us know how the H4350 does, I am going to try that myself.
The H 4350 shoots much better than the IMR in 6.5 caliber.

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Hello again from central Massachusetts, sight of the first Thanksgiving, 398 years ago. Google that and see what the Pilgrims and Native American ate... it was quite a spread !
Yesterday. my son and I went to the range to test the 3 new recipes of slower powders for my 180 gr RN leads. Those recipes are listed in Reply #7 above. The results were encouraging in that all 3 recipes' POI was only 12" above the bull's eye... much better that the 24" high POI I got using the very fast IMR 4198. I tried 4 rounds of R/L 15 at 100 yds. a the POI was about 11" high. With these results it seems to me that I have 2 options remaining: (1) Install a higher front sight blade, or, (2) reload using only 220 gr RN bullets. I am pretty much a purist, and as such, I don't want to install a non-original parts on the carbine. Also, I know the 30-40 Krag was manufactured to shoot a 220 gr RN bullet, and I am thinking the factory sights are calibrated for that bullet weight. I am thinking that if a 180 gr bullet shoots 11" high at 100 yds., a 220 gr. bullet might shoot only 3"-4'' high at the same distance. If it were to work out that way, I could certainly live with that. Again, as always, I will appreciate any counsel and advice you can provide.
Lastly, on the Forum's website, I can not find any instructions on posting pictures; I have taken pictures, uploaded them to my PC and would like members to see my carbine. Also, I would like to know how to save an unfinished post that will be completed at a later time

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