Krag Better Than M16?
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butlersrangers
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Re: Krag Better Than M16?
My 'Uncle Doug' killed that idea .... use enough gun!
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psteinmayer
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Re: Krag Better Than M16?
Sure thing... Here's me shooting at Camp Perry a few years ago:
https://youtu.be/z80OJ_WhYZk?si=bL5U5R4qRWUDXkiF
Here's me with my 98 last year:
https://youtu.be/mwNslmL-Dt4?si=UC28YmCuakL_w2ML
And just for fun... here's my son Ron shooting his Arisaka Type 99 last year:
https://youtu.be/44wAPnGijsQ?si=QP3fdRZ2bzJaLZA7
Re: Krag Better Than M16?
Note Paul had some fast reloading with a clip. More shots could have been sent down range in a given time, but Paul was going for accuracy and a good score.
I believe that the English P14 was being designed to shoot a .276 cartridge, also. But WWI broke out and they dropped and stayed with the .303 British as that round was being used in the SMLE, so it was done for logistical reasons. They contracted the U.S. companies to make the P14, which the companies retooled later to make the U.S. M1917 in 30-06. I never knew a .276 caliber was tried in a Garand.
I use the 223 Remington in a bolt action for coyote hunting. In some states it is legal to use for deer hunting. I personally would not use it for deer hunting if I had something bigger, which I do. I know the 223 Remington isn't loaded with as high of ballistics as the 5.56x45, but it isn't significant enough to change my mind to use it on deer. On the other hand, the 30-40 has taken deer and bear. The round took a record book elk in 1957 and held that record for many years.
I believe that the English P14 was being designed to shoot a .276 cartridge, also. But WWI broke out and they dropped and stayed with the .303 British as that round was being used in the SMLE, so it was done for logistical reasons. They contracted the U.S. companies to make the P14, which the companies retooled later to make the U.S. M1917 in 30-06. I never knew a .276 caliber was tried in a Garand.
I use the 223 Remington in a bolt action for coyote hunting. In some states it is legal to use for deer hunting. I personally would not use it for deer hunting if I had something bigger, which I do. I know the 223 Remington isn't loaded with as high of ballistics as the 5.56x45, but it isn't significant enough to change my mind to use it on deer. On the other hand, the 30-40 has taken deer and bear. The round took a record book elk in 1957 and held that record for many years.
Re: Krag Better Than M16?
The .276 that the Brits used for the P13 was close to a non-belted magnum in performance. Great for riflemen, but it would have produced an army of flinchers if they tried to train conscripts with it. Great rifle, really good sights, but Oh My! It was a loudenboomer!
The .276 Pedersen was a worked over Carcano, much like the 7.35 Carcano, or maybe the .30 Remington (for the Model 8) necked down. 125 grain bullet at about 2600, IIRC. Were the .276s outside lubricated? Would have left us with a .30-06 for the infantry's machine guns (and BAR) and for our reserve of 03s and 1917s, that with a war on the foreseeable horizon.
The .276 Pedersen was a worked over Carcano, much like the 7.35 Carcano, or maybe the .30 Remington (for the Model 8) necked down. 125 grain bullet at about 2600, IIRC. Were the .276s outside lubricated? Would have left us with a .30-06 for the infantry's machine guns (and BAR) and for our reserve of 03s and 1917s, that with a war on the foreseeable horizon.