Old powder

[FredC]

Thought about putting this in the ammo and reloading section but it probably is more chit chat.
We had a strong north wind Saturday and dust from the neighbors plowed field kept me from working outside on the ranch. Needed to do something useful, so I went inside and reloaded 45 shot shells for my Bond Snake Slayer. I am finishing up a canister that was labeled Hercules Unique that my father purchased sometime before 1965, maybe a coupe of years before.
Target accuracy is not necessary on shot shells from an average of 6 feet. The ones loaded a couple of years ago worked fine so I loaded up some that originally came from an old paper canister with the hand written label. I threw the old container away and now the remnants are stored in an old jelly jar. I bought a new pound of Unique from Alliant I think a few years ago, but have not opened it yet. If it lasts like the old stuff I will never use it all.
Anyone working with older powder?

[Whig]

I've kept some old powder in neat old containers my brother used to use in the 70s but I don't feel like I need to use it. I was always taught to smell the old stuff before using it because it smells acidic when it starts to deteriorate and go bad.

I figure that new powder is cheap enough that I don't need to use old stuff when I'm not sure. I do a lot of precision loading for accuracy and want reliable ignition throughout.

But, for shot shells that aren't that critical- go ahead and load some, then test it out. It won't harm you if it is bad. Might just not explode or give a hang fire.

I like taking old stuff and lighting it to watch it burn. But, that's the pyro in me!

[psteinmayer]

A couple years ago, I loaded some .45 ACP using an old can of Herco that my dad had from his 12 gauge reloading (he used to load for skeet). The powder was around 15 years old, but he kept the can stored properly, and it smelled ok, so I used it. Cartridges went bang just like they should have. Older powder that was properly stored can still be ok, but make sure you check it! By the way, I still have that can of Herco!

[Playapat]

I just loaded some 45 Colt with a container of Unique that I inherited from my Dad. The powder dates from - at least - the early 90s, possibly some time in the 80s. The powder worked without a problem.

I also have a lot of old primers, including some LR Primers from RWS, a West German company. The package is stamped 1973. Thats what I use in my Krag reloads, and they work fine too.

If nothing looks off (including the smell), I would give it a try.

[FredC]

I have come to the end of this road. Loaded the last of the old unique that my father bought back in the early 60s. Made about 30 rounds of 45 shot shells. Time to crack open the new canister of Unique. Now made by Alliant. The flakes in the new (2005) canister look identical to the old ones. From the label the new stuff will burn a little cleaner. Now have 45 rounds of these 45 caliber snake shot shells, so will be shooting them for several years. Just not loading anymore from the old batch as there is not enough powder in there for a squib load.

The canister on the left is my oldest one now, purchased after I got married probably in 1979 or 1980. Notice the store was Gibsons back when you could buy gunpowder at a department store for $7.95! I doubt this is the oldest being currently loaded by a KCA member so I surrender my title.

The rounds of shot shells and varmint bullets on the right were loaded with the new Unique.

[butlersrangers]

What's a "Department Store"?

..... I sometimes slipup and say things like "Dime Store" or "Record Album" to a young person and realize they are smiling and nodding, without comprehension.

Stories and jokes lose their punch, when you have to explain everything.

Hey ... is that a "Ball Jar" or a "Mason Jar"?

Did you know that Ball State University, in Indiana, was named for the 'Ball Jar Family'?

The sand for the old bluish 'Ball Jars' came from a, now greatly reduced, sand dune at Michigan City, Indiana, on Lake Michigan.

... amazing the useless crap you know when you get old!

[FredC]

BR, now that you mention it I did not even know if the store is still there.
They are Gibson's, Kerrville Texas -
https://www.gibsonsdiscount.com/departments
The link is supposed to go to the local store in Kerrville, it did for me. The sporting goods dept showed some deer on the wall that looked right for Kerrville. Way more ammo than Walmart ever had but I did not see any reloading stuff. I think Gibson's was more common in the past but this is the only one I remember seeing lately (40 years ago).

Pretty sure it is a Mason jar.

BR, I think we are on our way to getting old, whatcha think? Beats dying young though.

[Culpeper]

Does it matter what kind of jar it is? Nope. What does matter is how was the corn squeezin's that were in it.

I keep a jug handy when I is reloading. Glad to see I am not alone. ::) :D

Of course squeezin's ain't just for breakfast anymore.

[Baltimoreed]

During the dry spell a few years ago I found an unopened old cardboard keg of bullseye. No water damage. When I got home I transferred it to five mty one pound tall black plastic powder containers to limit the amount of air contact. Been loading .45 and ,38 out of container No 1 for a bit, 3.0 to 3.5 gr is not a lot of powder. Seems to be fine.

[butlersrangers]

Remember the smell ... of 'powder'?


I had a couple of the Pony Boys, but, was really 'packin' when I got a Nichols six-shooter and a Derringer, with the two piece cartridges you could load a piece of cap into! .... Woo Hoo!