I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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Lead Snowstorm
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I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

Post by Lead Snowstorm »

...I told myself, self, you got no business buying a Krag carbine, you don't know enough.

But then myself didn't listen. What have I done, KCA? :o

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Knute1
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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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Well, I don't know what you paid. And I'm no full fledged expert. But I think you did pretty durn good. The finish may not be original, but it appears you have all the right markings. I'd be happy to own it.

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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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Congrats. Looks like you made a nice purchase if the price was not unreasonable. Your M1899 was made Sept 1899 with the stock cartouche matching. This is an early M1899 in the first grouping of M1899 carbines. The stock having some wear and refinish is not significant for everything else being good. The M1901c rear sight had a higher front sight blade than earlier carbines. Usually the front sight blade has the "c" stamped high enough so you can see it. I can't tell on yours because of scratches. Might be there.

The bolt is the correct bolt for this carbine also. Some of the carbines and rifles in this age range had the headless cocking piece. But it's sort of hit or miss on these.

I see a repair in the front of the hand guard. Be careful removing that. Looks unstable and might need cleaned up and re-glued at some point.

Is there an oiler and cleaning rods in the butt stock?

How's the bore? If you have a good bore, that's really a keeper!

But looks great! Welcome to the Krag carbine owner's club!

Lead Snowstorm
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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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Well, I don't know what you paid. And I'm no full fledged expert. But I think you did pretty durn good. The finish may not be original, but it appears you have all the right markings. I'd be happy to own it.


Snap, I forgot the rest of the details! Another Gunbroker find, $850 + shipping/fees. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/851528038

I could see a hairline crack in the handguard just ahead of the receiver, but the photos nicely disguised the bigger crack ahead of the sights... ::) Like my other Krags, the rifling is pretty worn.

I did wonder about the stock finish, but not too hard given that the cartouches were still visible and...darn if it wasn't pretty good looking.

Lead Snowstorm
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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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Congrats. Looks like you made a nice purchase if the price was not unreasonable. Your M1899 was made Sept 1899 with the stock cartouche matching. This is an early M1899 in the first grouping of M1899 carbines. The stock having some wear and refinish is not significant for everything else being good. The M1901c rear sight had a higher front sight blade than earlier carbines. Usually the front sight blade has the "c" stamped high enough so you can see it. I can't tell on yours because of scratches. Might be there.

The bolt is the correct bolt for this carbine also. Some of the carbines and rifles in this age range had the headless cocking piece. But it's sort of hit or miss on these.

I see a repair in the front of the hand guard. Be careful removing that. Looks unstable and might need cleaned up and re-glued at some point.

Is there an oiler and cleaning rods in the butt stock?

How's the bore? If you have a good bore, that's really a keeper!

But looks great! Welcome to the Krag carbine owner's club!


Yep, I'm not sure if there's a C on the front sight blade or not, and that's after looking pretty closely...for awhile...with a strong light, lol.

The handguard crack *is* very unstable. I'm going to need a tutorial on getting the rear sight off, so's I can get the handguard off eventually.

Buttstock totally empty, alas. Bore is a bit worn, 3+ on my gauge. Doesn't look terribly pitted at first glance, but veeeery dusty. Haven't had a chance to scrub it out yet.

ETA I did run a couple of patches. Looks promising, but the proof will be in the pudding...

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Knute1
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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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I believe this carbine is in good hands. Good on ya.

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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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Model 1899 marked Krags were built as carbines, so you know you have a legitimate carbine.

Some of your metal parts appear to have a copper cast to them. This is likely from 'Plumb Brown' and 'Cold Blue' metal touch up. (I thought your front-sight blade was brass at first).

Your wood appears to be Italian walnut that has been stained and refinished. A lot of these stocks were used in 1899, 1900, and 1901.

This is a good Krag to use without guilt about using it.




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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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I don't know... Looks like an uber dangerous carbine. Maybe you should send it to me so I can enjoy, er, ah, hrrmptf, evaluate it and ensure it is safe for you to shoot.

I agree with the rest of the guys. Ya did real good now git us a range report.
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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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'Lead Snowstorm' - The rear-sight comes off by removing the two mounting screws. (Model 1901 rifle sight shown in photo).

Then remove the barrel-band by sliding it forward, while compressing the band-spring. (Remember the "U" on the band goes on the right-hand side of the Krag).

Remove the stock by removing the two trigger-guard screws.

Now, the hand-guard can be slid down the barrel toward the muzzle. As it moves down the barrel taper, the pressure is relieved on the hand-guard's spring-clips.

Coins (a Quarter and a Nickel or Penny) can be twisted into the loose hand-guard's 'spring clips' to counteract the spring pressure. This will help hold the cracked wood in position for gluing. ImageImage

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Re: I told myself not to get into the carbine weeds...

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...I told myself, self, you got no business buying a Krag carbine, you don't know enough.
But then myself didn't listen. What have I done, KCA?


If you are an alcoholic and fall off the wagon, get involved in an accident and end up in jail, that is one thing.

Looks like this falling off the wagon was akin to landing 2 foot deep rose petals, did not get hurt, and now you smell like a rose. :-)

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