krag carbine

[kw64]

and I have to say that the 96 is a jaw dropping beauty!!

[butlersrangers]

The model 1899 was a 'sporterized' carbine I was able to get original parts and restore.

The model 1896 is not mine, sob.

[kw64]

Does this rear sight, barrel band and receiver look correct for a 1898 Carbine? The serial number is in the mid-120,000. thank you

Ken

[kw64]

sorry, sent the posting before I finished my thought. to me the rear sight looks like a like a 1902 sight. Were 98 carbines ever retro-fitted with a later sight? thank you

Ken

[Dick Hosmer]

It's possible - the sight appears to be a 1902C, but I don't like the "C".

[butlersrangers]

IMHO: This 1902 sight is a fake combination of parts.

I believe it is a model 1902 top (rod/bayonet 1903 Springfield leaf, actually) on an model 1898 rifle sight base. (The elevation ramps are too high for a carbine sight). The "C" stamps are incorrect and show disruption of metal. (They have been added after finish). There should only be a "C" on the side of the base. The model 1902 carbine sight does not have a "C" on the eye-piece. Only 1,000 model 1902 carbine sights were made.

It does appear to be an 1899 'long forearm' carbine stock. These were used on 1899 carbines and as replacements on model 1898 carbines that were 'updated' to 1899 carbine configuration.
The barrel band appears to be an 1899 carbine band, but, it is on backwards. A "U" should be visible on the right side of the band to assist correct assembly.
The Model 1898 carbine is one of the most faked Krags, since, only 5,000 were made. It is always important to see a clear picture of the muzzle/front sight area to verify a real carbine barrel.
With that fake rear sight, I'd run away from this one! I don't like that front sight screw either.

[kw64]

Were the "c" markings ever faked? Please tell me more about what you do not like.

thanks

[butlersrangers]

Krag carbine sights were stamped before final finishing and browning (bluing). Marking ("C") should be clean with no disruption of metal.
Here is a picture of a real model 1902 carbine sight. There is only one "C". (This sight does have the 1903 style of elevation knob, a common repair).:

[Dick Hosmer]

Admittedly a small point, but ditto on the screw. Also, compare the shape of the curvature of the ramps. That sight has been ground down from a rifle one.

As to whether carbines are ever faked, the answer, sadly, is a resounding "yes".

[kw64]

One sellar stated that 03 rear sights were frequently added to Krags when they went through an armory refit. Is there any truth to that?