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'Baltimoreed' - Wonderful 'reclamation' project!

How about a Pederson Device?

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Or maybe a high capacity magazine!

Of course a Pedersen Device would be much more appropriate for a 1903 Mk I.
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When I was a young collector (1960's), the Pedersen magazines, example cartridges, and canvas pouches for the device were still available.

The cartridge was a glorified pistol cartridge, shorter than the WW-2 .30 Carbine cartridge.

It is very fortunate a large scale '1919 Offensive', using the device, became unnecessary.


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For what its worth, I sold a magazine for one last year for about $2k.

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'Baltimoreed' - Maybe you can interest FredC into making a Pedersen Device .... and don't forget the 'stock clearance' around the ejection port!

Oh Boy! More crap to carry and clean mud out of!ImageImageImageImage

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Ill take one only if FredC can get the price point down a lot from the current $30,000.00- 40,000.00. Hey, how about Uberti, theyll make anything. WW1 reenactors would love it except the Pedersen assault never happened. Duh. And I finally read what the spring and plunger were for on the spindle, to keep pressure on the ejector to prevent it from binding up the PD when it was removed from the rifle. Nice pictures.

Had an aha! moment and figured the cutoff spindle out. It uses a spring and plunger to keep pressure on the ejector so the ejector doesnt interfere with removing the PD. That end of the spindle is hollow and as such cant have a piece milled out all the way around for the cutoff lock screw to lock into like the later solid spindles so theres a simple hole for the screw. The slot on the end is simply there to orient it as the hole and slot are aligned. Brilliant, [the design-not me].

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FWIW - Pedersen had patents filed in 1917 and granted in 1920.

The numbers I found were: 1355417, 1355418, 1355419, and 1355420.

From reading through the documents, IMHO, patents 1355417 and 1355420 seem most relevant to the Model 1903 Mark-1 Springfield Pedersen Device.ImageImageImage

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Tried to talk my wife into using some of her inheritance and bid on this auction lot...What an investment opportunity I says!...Ain't gonna happen she says. :'(

https://www.cowanauctions.com/lot/1903-springfield-mark-1-rifle-with-pedersen-device-and-accessories-3225112

Listed below is a c&arsenal pedersen device you tube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M637KpEP1_E

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Built a Mk1 dummy spindle to go on my Mk1 out of a Marlin stock bolt.ImageImage

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"Baltimoreed" working on his 1903 Stock!

Actually, a Springfield Armory worker shaping a regular model 1903 stock at one of the Hill Shops, (circa 1910).

Also, a view of the 1903 Mk-1 Springfield ejection port and necessary stock clearance cut.ImageImage

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