22 hornet what rifle twist?

[todd444]

next year after i get done building my son's 7x57(custom 93 spanish mauser), i want to build a 1898 springfield armory(i have two actions without the bolts) in 22 hornet and it be a cast boolit shooter only. i'm wondering if it will be a 1 in 16" rifle twist or a 1 in 14" twist? i'm planning on using a .225" 50gr fn or a 50gr ranch dog. i'll use the 22 hornet when i'm out hunting foxes and coyotes in the woods.



since i have another 98 spr armory action and i have a 30-40 krag already, should it be a 6.5 krag, 35 krag or a 405 JES? i was going to say 25 krag, but i have to build a 257 roberts in a 93 spanish mauser action, which i have. i have a 95 chilean mauser action but that is down the road to build!!!

[butlersrangers]

'todd444' - Welcome to the KCA Forum!

I really do not have the knowledge to recommend a twist-rate for your .22 Hornet project. But, I am curious about the barrel you intend to use?

I have a model 1898 Krag rifle with a very ugly bore. I have been trying to figure out a way of putting a .22 cal. 'rim-fire' Liner in the bore.

This seems a very complex thing to do, with the chamber "off-set" at the breech, (to take advantage of the issue firing-pin & extractor), and have the bore angled to become more concentric toward the muzzle.

More recently, I have contemplated having the barrel-breech bored straight, about 18 to 20 inches, and 'lined' with a turned-down .22 Hornet barrel. The Hornet 'center-fire' cartridge would just need the extractor-'claw' altered.

A single-shot Krag in .22 Hornet would be fun!

[FredC]

Looked to see your location and do not see any. Do they have wild pigs near you? If so the 35 Krag would be good medicine for them. 35 remington has give a good account for itself on large game. The 35/08 has been said to be the minimum caliber for the "great bears". The 35 Krag is in a happy place about 1/2 way between the two. Mine feeds well with no real modifications to the feed system. Bolts with all the parts are available from GrandPa's at a nominal price.
One of these days i will run into a pig while carrying mine and expect the pig will be sad about the encounter.
A 6.5/40 would be interesting and feed well if you were wanting to do something different or had the need.
Loads for either can be developed with the help of Quick Load. Choking the 30/40 case to 6.5 will not give you real good velocities at safe pressures. Expanding the bore to 35 lets you get velocities that are unobtainable with 200 to 250 grain in bullets in 30 caliber.

[todd444]

i'm going to get a douglas barrel and my gunsmith will thread and set the barrel. i'll have him do the alteration for the extractor. the rest i'll have to do, including the stock. i never had a 22 hornet or a 22 k hornet but since i have the action...................


the 35 krag is the last one i would try. the 405 JES is interesting and i'm sort of liking it. the 6.5 krag is my secondary. i've used the 6.5 creedmoor for deer and i liked it, but so did everybody else. i bought the 6.5cm when i could not find brass. i did 22-250 brass into my 6.5 cm die and i had a 6.5/22-250. it was short overall length(i think it was .02" or .2" short?) but it was useable. it was 2 or 3 years before i found 6.5cm brass. one thing i've never done with the 6.5mm is either the 160gr hornady rn or the 156gr prvi rn going 2100-2200fps, i'll have a deer load.

edit: i have a win m94 in 35/30-30 that can shoot boolits up to 280gr. i use 200gr fn gc with 2400/tuft of dacron that is my deer load. i forgot, i'm in swPA, the only "hogs" i have is the groundhog .

[Hoot]

WARNING: From memory (or what's left of it):
Hornets typically use 1:16 twist and also typically use bullets in the 40-ish gr. range because of that twist. I would seriously look to a faster twist (your 1:14 or maybe even 1:12) and heavier bullets if I were starting from scratch. You can always shoot the lighter bullets in the faster twist. "Over-stabilization" doesn't really come into play until 'way out there' and the lighter bullets will generally run out of steam before you get there.

There are a number of twist rate calculators out on the 'net requiring that you know bullet shape, bullet length, velocity and it will gin up an "ideal" twist. The one that comes to mind this morning is found on kwk.com.

[todd444]

thanks