Can anyone Help ID these markings??

[SFCRayT]

Thank you all for your responses and comments, as I am a new member. I believe I may have posted these pics in the wrong place. I'm new to Krags, so if there is something I did not include, let me know. There is no cartouche on this stock. The only stock markings are the "5" and "1" under and near the bolt. The wood has the original patina of the entire gun. Which appears to me to be the same age as the gun itself.

[SFCRayT]

second batch of pics

[SFCRayT]

last batch of pics.

[SFCRayT]

My concerns are that there is no stock cartouche or circle P on the stock, just the number 5 and 1. The rear sight is not marked with a C and the graduation ends with a number 6. Is this a 1896 rifle sight and if it is is that common. Does anyone think that these are actual unit markings-has anyone seen unit markings like this before?? Thank you so much for your time, Ray Tirado.

[SFCRayT]

Can someone also correct me if I'm wrong but the serial number would put this carbine at a 1901 production year. it would appear to me that this handguard is an 1899. the rear sight is an 1896 rifle sight. would it be correct for this carbine to have an 1899 handguard and 1896 carbine sight. Or would it be correct to have a 1901 handguard and a 1901 carbine sight?? I think I confused myself.

[SFCRayT]

Correction: a 1902 hand guard and 1901 rear sight

[butlersrangers]

'SFCRayT' - I am very suspicious of aspects of your Krag. The model 1899 receiver would have originally been assembled as a carbine.
But, your present barrel is likely a cut-down rifle barrel.
The front-sight base appears reattached with lead solder. The blade and retaining pin are not correct.

Your stock and handguard are carbine parts.
The absence of a cartouche and circle "P" on the stock, suggests it was a loose replacement stock, that someone used to build a parts gun.

The 1 and 5 stamps, on the stock, appear to be nonsense. There is a stock repair (pin) in front of the bolt-handle.

The '6 CAV Troop K' marking on the stock and trigger-guard appear to be creative fakery to me.

Your rear-sight appears to be a model 1896 rifle sight. The leaf on an 1896 rifle sight goes up to 18; a carbine leaf goes up to 20.

I believe your Krag is a rough replica, that some civilian owner put together from parts. You are best off to enjoy it, as is.

Your handguard is a type that was devised around 1902 to use on model 1896 carbines, that were 'updated' with an 1899 style replacement stock.
It could also be used on model 1899 carbines with the 1896 carbine sight.

Your model 1899 action, when originally assembled into a carbine, would have likely had the model 1901 carbine sight and a 1901 rifle type handguard.

[butlersrangers]

'Ray', if you do not have a copy, get Joe Poyer's inexpensive book, "The American Krag Rifle and Carbine", (Lots of fun information).

Model 1899 carbines, depending on when they were originally produced (and if & when rebuilt), may have worn the model 1898 carbine sight, the model 1896 carbine sight, the model 1901 carbine sight, or the model 1902 carbine sight.

With sight model changes, ammunition changes, and moves to standardize, some model 1899 carbines may have worn two or three different rear-sights, during service use.

Attached is a copy of a handguard guide from the KCA - Main Pages.

[scottz63]

Replica, not real, parts gun, whatever it may be, it's still a nice Krag. Enjoy it and shoot it if all passes shooting inspection and headspace check.

[MooseNugget]

Hello SFCRayT and welcome to the KCA.

The inside of the butt plate trap door is stamped with Springfield inspector/worker marks that should match the marks on the reverse side of the butt plate. IIRC, the butt plate trapdoor and butt plate were fitted/matched together.

The cocking piece is the not so common HEADLESS type that some carbines/rifles received.

I would also encourage you to enjoy as is and maybe at some point, all the questions you have maybe answered.

We'll do our best but somethings may remain a mystery.